I finally was able to try this bit out on my QH mare. I had been riding her in a eggbutt snaffle with a copper lozenge, but began to think that the lozenge was perhaps too big for her mouth, and that it was pressing on her tongue and I wanted the bit to be mild, not irritating. So I began to look into bits that might be light and mild for her, as she is very driven by leg and body cues and doesn't like you on her face a lot, nor does she need it. But, I ride her on trails and like the security of a bit when things get hairy. (Otherwise I sometimes ride in a Dr Cook bitless and she goes pretty well in that.)Anyway, she went well in this bit right off the bat. I adjusted the curb chain that I got for it so that it engaged, but very lightly. I ride English, so she is not used to a curb under her chin. So I didn't want that to be suddenly distracting. But she went very well in the bit and she did none of her head tossing that she sometimes does. This was one fairly short ride up the road, so I will come back to edit with more if anything changes with her. But right now, I think this is a great bit. I wanted something that wouldn't be too different from what she was used to, an English snaffle, but yet offered her the tongue relief most of the time, but when rein pressure is applied, the tongue pressure is applied. I also like that you can direct rein with this bit, but it does five a tiny bit of poll pressure and curb pressure. It is a good sort of compromise bit, I think, between what some might call a traditional English bit and a traditional western curb bit. I will probably get another for my gelding. I don't believe in going to stronger and stronger bits. I think what is needed is training, and the right bit. The right bit being one that fits the horse's mouth right, and is comfortable for the horse and aids the horse in the cues. And they are cues, not punishment. So anything sharp doesn't belong in my horse's mouth. That just creates pain and fear. And those put barriers up to learning and trust. So, I go with a mild bit that is comfortable for the horse, yet at the same time, I want a bit that gives direct easily understood communication. From what I felt today, this bit is giving me that. My mare responded quickly but always with ears forward and no mouthing or seeming irritated with her mouth, her face was relaxed.